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Stupid Phone

I charged my phone on Saturday at 2am. (after we got back from the concert) Now, it's dead. Completely dead. In fact, it turned itself off because it is so dead. WTF?!??! It can't even last 4 whole days without being charged?? I will say that I've talked more the past 4 days what with traveling and Karin being in the hospital, but am I the only one that thinks this is extremely unreasonable?

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misch
Nov. 20th, 2007 09:51 pm (UTC)
I live in a swamp. Some days, my phone doesn't even make a full day on one charge.
tenthz
Nov. 20th, 2007 09:54 pm (UTC)
Wow... is that because it's always searching for signal or something?
mountainheather
Nov. 21st, 2007 12:52 am (UTC)
Probably. That's how phones work at my Grandparents. Signal there sucks and so does battery life.

I've personally never tried to make it last four days, I charge every night. So I'm coming from an inexperienced perspective, but I'm not surprised. I would expect 2/2.5 at best.
tenthz
Nov. 21st, 2007 01:30 am (UTC)
Isn't that bad for the battery?
mountainheather
Nov. 21st, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
Supposedly, but I'd rather have it slowly drain the maximum that it can charge up to than have it go out on me when I need it most.
misch
Nov. 21st, 2007 01:19 am (UTC)
Yup. There's a cell tower on a big blue water tower about a mile+ away. Hard to get the signal. Especially if I'm carrying it around the apartment. In some parts of my apartment, it doesn't get the signal.

Falcon Ridge, I only lost 2 of the 4 dots on the whole battery over 3 days. (Good signal reception.) Here, butkus.
usafphoenix07
Nov. 21st, 2007 06:07 am (UTC)
Funniest thing I always used to hear... which is understandable, but it's something many take for granted:
"My old phone used to work fine in my house/apartment/etc, this one doesn't, it must be broken."

Unfortunately, it's even written in the contracts that there is no guarantee of service inside any building.
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usafphoenix07
Nov. 21st, 2007 06:04 am (UTC)
Since I used to work as a phone tech...
A phone unused would probably end up dying after 4-6 days, depending on reception.

Any phone call made or received, text messages... anything involving data transmission (getting a call that you don't even answer, and the following notification that you have a voicemail)... all of those will use battery life.

If you had an extended battery, perhaps I'd understand some concern. But under normal usage with a new battery, you're probably only looking at 2-3 days before it'll start puttering out. Extended length phone calls, or frequent calls.. emergency situations wherein you use it beyond "normal" would drain the battery faster. Also keep in mind that battery's have a life-span; they're only guaranteed to last (again, normal use) for a year. Normal use according to Verizon's old specs I believe was 1000 minutes/month.

If you charge the battery every day, you're life span will reduce. If you talk 2000+ minutes in a month, expect the battery to start lasting shorter after approx. 6 months, if that.

Even if you don't have Verizon, all manufacturers will end up with similar specs for their batteries... and never pay attention to the "talk time/standby time" ratings on your model phone, those are done under optimal conditions. My phone's claimed talk/standby is 4.16 hours/8.3 days, respectively. Experience has put me closer to about 70-80% of their claim.. so do the same for your own use.

Yeah... wow I totally went babble on you. lol.
usafphoenix07
Nov. 21st, 2007 06:11 am (UTC)
Re: Since I used to work as a phone tech...
Though again I can't say much about other providers, but a little side note for Verizon use:

The newer phones support the 1X data/EV-DO. This is actually a separate way in which they transfer file information and whatnot, and thus service availability is separate in various regions. The problem therein is that you could have flawless signal for voice communication, but if your EV-DO reception is horrible, the phone will drain the battery attempting to search for an EV-DO network to connect to.

I believe GSM networks work similarly, but since I've little experience in the technical side of things... I'm not really promising much. ;-)
tenthz
Nov. 21st, 2007 02:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Since I used to work as a phone tech...
Hm. Good to know. My phone is only a few months old, so I would expect that battery to be in tip-top shape. My old phone (really old) could go an entire week with my "normal" usage and not need to be charged (plus, it gave me a TON of warning, unlike my new phone), so I guess I'm just still getting used to this one.
usafphoenix07
Nov. 21st, 2007 09:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Since I used to work as a phone tech...
Yeah if it's only a few months it shouldn't be fairing too horribly. I think it's amusing that the newer phones still use the standard sized batteries when they add all these new features.

Many of the LG phones we carried used the same battery, even though the phones themselves had an entirely different set of features. It's amusing to think that simple non camera, non music, etc. type phones only "required" the same amount of power as phones like the VX8100/VX8300, which were V-Cast music phones. You'd think they'd at least up the milliamps on the batteries knowing that people'd be playing music or whatever. *shrug*

I'm curious now though... what provider do you have? And do you know the model of your old phone vs. your new phone?
tenthz
Nov. 22nd, 2007 02:03 am (UTC)
Re: Since I used to work as a phone tech...
AT&T. Both phones are/were Nokias - the new one has a camera and such and the old one was one of the first GSM phones. Stupid that the new phones with all the special features have the same sort of batteries as the old ones.
dracheitskara
Nov. 24th, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Since I used to work as a phone tech...
Newer Samsung should have an NXP power management chip that doubles the life span of a battery. Nokia will start having it starting sometime in 2008.
tenthz
Nov. 24th, 2007 01:47 pm (UTC)
Re: Since I used to work as a phone tech...
Now THERE'S something to look forward to! :-)
mountainheather
Nov. 28th, 2007 01:38 am (UTC)
Re: Since I used to work as a phone tech...
Don't you know that upgrades are really downgrades in disguise? ;)
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